Prospect: Ryan Devine (rdevine@vizance.com, 262-408-7030)
Source: Inbound — Daniela Guzman forwarded 4/27, Adam-Fleckles-adjacent referral via realtor
Properties (3 options Ryan is choosing between, all Granby Ranch):
| Option | Address | Beds/Baths | SqFt | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| P1 | 866 Black Feather Ct | 5BR/3.5BA | 2,899 | Secluded canyon view |
| P2 | Lot 100 Evergreen | 4BR | 3,031 | Under construction; steps to ski run |
| P3 | Lot 113 Evergreen | 5BR/4.5BA | 3,473 | New construction; true ski-in/ski-out |
All 3 plan hot tub + sauna.
Projection numbers (one-big-number format per Rachel coaching):
| Property | Stabilized Gross | Stabilized Net to Owner |
|---|---|---|
| P1 866 Black Feather | $82,000 | $57,400 |
| P2 Lot 100 Evergreen | $118,000 | $82,600 |
| P3 Lot 113 Evergreen | $185,000 | $129,500 |
Stage history:
- 2026-04-27 ~21:00 MDT: Daniela forwarded Ryan's inquiry. Rachel cc'd. Substantive 3-property request — flagged for Joseph personal handling.
- 2026-04-27 21:01Z: Rachel directive — "share with me BEFORE sending to prospect"
- 2026-04-28 02:48Z: Live-ea retool — applied Rachel "one big number, not three" coaching across deliverables. Built XLSX (8 sheets), PDF, deck for all 3 props. Backups preserved.
- 2026-04-28 09:33 MDT (15:33Z): Devine-Rachel-v2 sent (Joseph → Rachel) with stabilized big numbers for all 3 props
- 2026-04-28 10:07 MDT (16:07Z): Devine-Ryan prospect-facing email SENT (Joseph → Ryan) with one-big-number framing
- 2026-04-28 17:54Z: Ryan reply #1 — "Thanks Joseph! This is really helpful. Monday May 4th might work. Let me talk to my wife Kim tonight and I will get back to you."
- 2026-04-29 00:54Z: Ryan reply #2 — "Joseph Can you do Monday afternoon anytime after 2 pm your time? Thanks Ryan" — concrete time anchor; Kim signed off implicitly
- 2026-04-29 14:48Z: Ryan reply #3 — "Can we say 4pm your time?" (further refined the anchor)
- 2026-04-29 14:49Z: Joseph reply — "That works, I'll get it on our calendars" (verbal lock)
- 2026-04-29 15:05Z: Kim Devine reply (kdevinehomes@gmail.com) — "Look forward to talking then!" (joint engagement confirmed)
- 2026-04-29 21:03Z: QB-quarterback queued redraft
qb-redraft-devine-may4-confirm-2026-04-29T21:03:31Z— Mon May 4 2:30pm MT confirm + Meet link (NOTE: 2:30 vs 4pm — needs reconciliation; Joseph's verbal lock above was 4pm Joseph-time, but the QB redraft says 2:30pm MT — likely the redraft used the earlier "after 2pm" anchor before today's 4pm refinement was visible. Resolve before sending.) - 2026-05-04 22:00Z: Call completed — 1hr verbatim transcript (gmail msg 19df527cf6c52323). Ryan accepted 4pm invite at 3:17pm MDT. Kim did not join. Decision window: end of week (~5/8-9). Ryan's gut: P1 (866 Black Feather). May 11 2pm MT 2nd meeting set (HS 109150400323).
- 2026-05-05 14:45Z (8:45 AM MDT): Ryan inbound in thread 19dd4d08b6414e2b — questioning 30%-vs-15% net-revenue spread on Black Feather projection (gmail msg 19df899e575b58dc). Math is correct; live-ea drafted RED reply r180965399154036499 at 15:05Z.
- 2026-05-05 16:13Z (10:13 AM MDT): Joseph reply SENT into thread 19dd4d08b6414e2b — gmail msg
19df8eaabb77ab62(verified via gmail-deep-scan 18:04Zjoseph_outbound_skippedledger; pending_draftsdirect-drafts-2026-05-05-devine-projection-30vs15purged from queue). Re-anchored 30% flat per call agreement, walked through gross→net math line-by-line, surfaced "where did 15% come from?" without challenging. Awaiting Ryan response.
Stage: discovery_complete_2nd_meeting_reschedule_pending (Ryan declined May 11 2pm MT slot — Joseph asking for new windows; awaiting Ryan reply)
Last touch: 2026-05-07 16:08Z — Joseph reply asking Ryan for new meeting windows (after Ryan's decline at 15:18Z).
5/5 inbound — Ryan's question: "It looks like the net revenue for each property in the projections has a 30% reduction rather than a 15% reduction. Example: projected revenue for Black Feather is $81,993 but the net revenue is $57,395. Can you explain this to me?"
- Math is correct: $81,993 gross × 30% = $24,598 mgmt fee → $57,395 net to owner
- Where 15% likely comes from (descending probability): (1) buyer's remorse / paper-vs-verbal disconnect now that Ryan is running the math himself; (2) competing PM quote (15% on top of OTA fees, not full-service); (3) confusion with cleaning-fee/platform-fee structure
- What Ryan agreed to in 5/4 call (verbatim line 23-25 of transcript): Joseph said "30% pretty firm... happy to run that up the flagpole, but my gut inclination is gonna be 30%" — Ryan acknowledged in real time
- Joseph's reply posture (live-ea draft): re-anchor 30% flat (per call agreement), explain net-to-owner math line-by-line, surface "where did 15% come from?" without challenging, no rate discount; defer 15%-flex conversation to May 11 hybrid responsibility-split meeting
- Action: Joseph review draft
r180965399154036499and send into thread19dd4d08b6414e2bby Wed 5/6 EOD. Do NOT cave on rate. The lever is responsibility split, not discount.
HS object IDs (canonical references):
- Ryan contact:
218453875343(rdevine@vizance.com, lifecyclestage=opportunity, owner Joseph) - Kim contact:
218454001274(kdevinehomes@gmail.com, lifecyclestage=opportunity post-call, owner Joseph; Lead of Team Devine — The Real Estate Studio, 262-227-6462) - Deal:
59826471786"Devine - Granby Ranch (3 property options)" —qualifiedtobuy, default pipeline, $1000 commission (Bowens Sourced) - Today's meeting:
108878870276("Granby Ranch — projections call (1st meeting)", May 4 22:00–23:00Z, outcome=COMPLETED, full body 4.6K chars, assoc Ryan+Kim+deal) - May 11 follow-up meeting:
109150400323("SkyRun/Devine 2nd Meeting", May 11 20:00Z = 2pm MT, assoc Ryan+Kim+deal) - Open task:
109154000654("Devine prep — hybrid responsibilities one-pager + P1 number reconciliation", HIGH priority, due 2026-05-08, assoc Ryan+Kim+deal) - Premature task:
108904254532("Send Contract for Devine"; NOT_STARTED — leave pending until they pick)
May 4 call outcome (verbatim transcript in gmail msg 19df527cf6c52323):
- Ryan accepted 4pm invite at 3:17 PM after 3:05 PM "I had down today to chat at 2pm" confusion. Kim did NOT join the call.
- Decision window: end of THIS week (~May 8/9). Ryan has one other PM call this week.
- Ryan's gut → P1 (866 Black Feather). "Safest entry point," 5BR + bonus = effectively 6BR, the property he loves most.
- P3 hesitation handled — anchored on the Granby Ranch existing-5BR comp at $68K. Joseph reframed: that comp has no hot tub, no ski-in/ski-out, "down the hill." Ryan accepted but still cautious on price.
- P2 layout shift caught — they plan to convert the ski room into a 5th bedroom. Projection currently built on 4BR; rerun as 5BR if P2 advances.
- Source correction — Ryan said twice "you guys came recommended by our lender." Lender warm + paid Google search inbound, NOT realtor-referral.
- Verbal numbers vs paper (must reconcile):
- P1: said "around $88K stabilized with hot tub" (paper = $82K stabilized / $70K Y1). +$6K verbal lift.
- P3: said "5–15K of headroom intentional" above $185K (matches Rachel-coached posture, no conflict).
Deal driver — hybrid management for tax status:
- Kim is a licensed real estate agent (verified: Lead of Team Devine, kdevinehomes.com, 262-227-6462).
- Targeting real estate professional tax status — requires Kim 10+ hrs/wk on the property.
- Ryan asked twice whether 30% has flexibility relative to involvement. Joseph held 30% firm; cracked door: "happy to run that up the flagpole" pending detail on responsibility split.
- The lever for May 11 is the responsibility split, NOT the rate. Need a hybrid responsibilities one-pager: what they own (cleaning inspection, linen swap, light maintenance ticketing, owner-side documentation) vs. what SkyRun owns.
Operational answers Joseph delivered (covered in call):
- OTA stack across the board incl. own portal; Marriott Bonvoy points accepted — VERIFY before putting in writing.
- Real-time pricing tech stack; not set-and-forget.
- Local teams, 3-touch turnover (initial check-in/strip → cleaning crew → inspection), 24/7 maintenance + phones.
- Hot tub vendor relationship + maintenance owned by SkyRun.
- Cleaning fee: built into nightly rate, $50/room flat, broken out for guest.
- Pets: big SEO needle-mover, case-by-case by breed, Rental Guardian umbrella required (Ryan TBD).
- Garage spots: 1.5-car not a concern; one spot covers typical guest pattern.
- Furnishing: SkyRun designer + 30–60% off via vendor partnerships. Devines + realtor angling for builder furnishing credit on Lot 100/113.
- Sauna: not a needle-mover, soft-deprioritize.
Joseph todo before May 11 (encoded in HS task 109154000654):
1. Hybrid responsibilities one-pager.
2. Reconcile P1 verbal $88K vs paper $82K — decide which to honor.
3. Verify Marriott Bonvoy claim before it shows up in writing.
4. Builder furnishing-credit talk-track for Lot 100/113.
5. Rerun P2 projection as 5BR (with caveat) if P2 advances.
What NOT to put in writing:
- $88K P1 (until reconciled with paper).
- Any commitment below 30% (the lever is the responsibility split, not the rate).
- Specific competitor occupancy %.
Next meeting: Mon May 11, 2pm MT / 3pm CT, with both Ryan AND Kim (apologized in-call for missing Kim on first invite; second invite already sent — Joseph confirmed).
Joseph travel context: Texas Sun May 10 surprise for Mother's Day, back to valley by 11am MT Mon May 11 ahead of 2pm call.
Commission: Bowens Sourced — $1,000 per closed lead
Why this matters: First multi-property prospect in active pipeline. Three different deal sizes, three different builders/sellers, three different tax IDs, all under one prospect — a good test of the new one-big-number deliverable format Rachel just coached.
How to apply: When Ryan responds, decide projection vs walkthrough vs discovery call. If he picks P3 ($185K stabilized), this becomes the highest-revenue property in the pipeline.
- 2026-05-07 15:18Z: Ryan declined the scheduled May 11 2pm MT 2nd meeting — gmail msg
19e02fcb12f1c440(per gmail-deep-scan today). Quote: "Hi Jospeh I cannot make this time now can we find a different time? Thanks". Decline event recorded as RED prospect_reply by gmail-deep-scan 19:03Z. - 2026-05-07 16:08Z: Joseph replied asking Ryan for new windows (per gmail-deep-scan note). Awaiting Ryan's reply with new times. Reschedule pending.
Current next action (as of 2026-05-08): Watch inbox for Ryan's reschedule reply. If silent >48h, redraft a soft reschedule nudge offering 2-3 specific windows (week of May 11, working around Joseph's Adam touchpoint).